"There is a big change going on lately. A year ago, all BPM and workflow was centered around BPEL and around web service orchestration. And that was the way to go, that was the single process language that's going to make it. At that time we were already long time working on our multi-language approach."After noisy attempts at the moscone, inbetween ringing phones of the labs crew, an eager housecleaning lady and an apologising hotel manager we managed to shoot an interview in San Fransisco at JavaOne this year.